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Making Sense of Trump’s PA Supreme Court Hearing with Rudy Giuliani

by Kari Donovan
November 18, 2020
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On Tuesday Rudy Giuliani appeared in Superior Court in Pennsylvania to stop the certification of election results from the 2020 Presidential election, and depending upon whose Twitter timeline you read, Giuliani was either doing very well or was being a bumbling fool, adding confusion to the news of the hearing.

Daily Mail reported:

“Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court ruled Tuesday against Donald Trump’s presidential campaign’s complaint that observers weren’t allowed close enough to observe the electoral count in a state that provided a crucial 20 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden.

The 5-2 decision ruled that Pennsylvania counties could determine the particulars of election observers, and that state law only required they be ‘in the room’ when votes are counted.

The ruling came minutes after Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani appeared in federal court to allege a nationwide conspiracy of widespread voter fraud. ” 

At one time Giuliani’s name was trending with people opposed to Trump just calling Giuliani names, and being ridiculous, as were the election workers in PA, apparently.

For the past half-hour, attorney Mark Aronchick – representing PA counties being sued by Trump – has loudly torn into @RudyGiuliani, saying he is ignorant of the law, living in "some fantasy world" and pushing wild allegations that are "disgraceful in an American courtroom."

— Jon Swaine (@jonswaine) November 17, 2020

Supporters of Trump’s felt that he represented President Donald J. Trump’s case very well.

You media morons are all laughing at @RudyGiuliani, but he appears to have already established a great rapport with the judge, who is currently offering recommendations on martini bars for Team Trump in open court.

— Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) November 17, 2020

The Trump campaign’s case is that election procedures were not uniform across the state and election officials want the case thrown out. On Monday Trump’s second legal team withdrew from the case after pressure to do so, leaving Attorney Rudy Giuliani to join the legal battle at the last moment.

Some political watchers were frustrated at what appeared to be a chaotic and unorganized legal strategy and others remembered that it was Giuliani in a case called “The Pizza Connection” who broke up the mob.

Listening to the Trump Campaign's federal court case against PA Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and several county boards of elections, including Allegheny. The campaign is pushing for the election results to not be certified due to alleged mail-in balloting issues

— Aaron Martin (@WPXIAaronMartin) November 17, 2020

Before the Tuesday hearing Jenna Ellis, a member of the legal team made an appearance with Charles Payne on Fox News to discuss the case the team had prepared.

WATCH: @JennaEllisEsq corrects the record on the Trump campaign’s Pennsylvania lawsuit.

“We incorporated all of the ballot counting issues in our lawsuit. We dropped nothing…This is a legitimate legal cause so that we make sure to preserve election integrity.” pic.twitter.com/Lve4potJrM

— Trump War Room – Text TRUMP to 88022 (@TrumpWarRoom) November 16, 2020

Politico, who believes that Giuliani and Trump are bumbling fools reported:

“President Donald Trump’s campaign on Tuesday sought to add some star power to its flailing legal effort to contest the election results, deploying former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to this small central Pennsylvania city to argue that the state’s election tallies should be thrown out because they’re tainted by fraud.

Arriving to cheers from a band of Trump supporters gathered in a mall parking lot across the street, Giuliani strode into the modest, four-story federal courthouse for hearing on a bid by Pennsylvania officials to dismiss a lawsuit the Trump campaign filed last week to try to block certification of President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the state’s 20 electoral votes.”

https://twitter.com/williammarth1/status/1328767551623614464?s=20

Shitshow continues…
CNBC: Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani joins Pa. court case seeking to deny Biden victory after other attorneys quit.https://t.co/vo0WsnZqRr

via @GoogleNews

— Simone "Flip Georgia. Save America" Beauvoir (@FanmVayan) November 17, 2020

According to CNBC, “Giuliani’s last-minute request to have a federal judge admit him to the case came hours before a hearing in the matter, and after two sets of other lawyers for Trump’s reelection campaign quit the case over the past week.

It also came after U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Brann denied a request by another new attorney for the campaign to postpone the hearing, which is set for 1:30 p.m. ET.

A former New York City mayor and federal prosecutor, Giuliani is not admitted to practice law in Pennsylvania federal court, so he needed permission from Brann to appear in the case.”

HAPPENING NOW: Civil rights lawsuit filed by @RealDonaldTrump campaign, now being argued by @RudyGiuliani, alleges massive violations of law in the illicitly secretive counting and other illegal handling of hundreds of thousands of ballots,

— Tom Fitton (@TomFitton) November 17, 2020

In the end, Giuliani lost as expected, and as he predicted, saying he saw this case as a step on his way to the United States Supreme Court.

NEW: The PA Supreme Court has ruled Philadelphia did not violate state election law when it restricted how close poll observers could stand to the processing of mail-in ballots because of COVID — a loss for Trump's campaign, which had won in a lower court https://t.co/VaKNskHlqJ pic.twitter.com/jC0wPuSbbg

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) November 17, 2020

The lower court decision that the PA Supreme Court has now reversed was one of the Trump campaign's only wins in court. The timing of this opinion is remarkable – right after Rudy Giuliani argued in federal court that there was no meaningful observer access in Philadelphia

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) November 17, 2020

Giuliani Wants Supreme Court to Decide Election ~

Trump has maintained he would “easily” be declared the victor in the race if just the “legal votes" were counted.https://t.co/uWGfKlcCok pic.twitter.com/MKJjJzWMKM

— Gary (@KMGGaryde) November 17, 2020

Giuliani: Two established vehicles 'ready to go' to the Supreme Court https://t.co/luRSj7VAWZ @MorningsMaria @FoxBusiness @RudyGiuliani || On Parler @Mariabartiromotv

— Maria Bartiromo (@MariaBartiromo) November 17, 2020

The Daily Mail described the ruling as :

“After hearing arguments and motions for a total six hours, Brann peppered Giuliani with questions and gave his team until 5pm Wednesday to file a new brief. After a long day of arguments, he advised counsel on both sides ‘off the record’ about area restaurants, as well as a martini bar and a brew pub.”

ABC News reported that there has been ‘infighting and disillusionment’ on the Trump campaign since Trump put Giuliani in charge of his legal effort days ago. Trump has refused to concede defeat to President-elect Joe Biden. Giuliani and lawyer Jenna Ellis have been installed in what was being called a campaign ‘coup.’

The New York Times reported that Giuliani, who represented Trump pro bono during impeachment, was seeking $20,000 per day, above what even the nation’s top lawyers bill.” 

Giuliani denied it, saying his pay would be determined later.

‘I never asked for $20,000,’ he told the paper. ‘The arrangement is, we’ll work it out at the end.’ 

Giuliani is a controversial figure. Demand was so high to hear Trump’s lawyer in action that there were technical problems when a call-in line that was supposed to be equipped for 4,000 people got swamped. The judge said 8,000 people tried to get on.

DailyMail.com was on for part of the hearing but the call cut out twice they reported and the case ended pretty much as expected.

Kari Donovan
Kari Donovan

Kari is an ex-Community Organizer who writes about Cultural Marxism, grassroots activism, music, IndyCar racing and political campaigns.  @Saorsa1776

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